The going thing among lefty bloggers right now seems to be pointing out that "we have become a nation that tortures". So when Bellatrys points out that, given what we know about the CIA's activities in Latin America over the past few decades, that's kind of old news, it's a useful corrective.

Still, something's changed when Chris Wallace on Fox News responds to reports of prisoners at Gitmo chained up for days and defecating on themselves by saying that prisoners at Auschwitz "would have been very happy to be allowed to defecate on themselves." Back in the day, when our ambassador in Honduras, John Negroponte (gosh, where is he now?) denied all knowledge of death squads run by the dictatorship we were sponsoring there, it was all proxies and deniability. They seemed to know enough, back then, to be embarrassed by it.

As the man says (one of the same guys linked above, incidentally), "Guess what? Sometimes you're on a slope, and you're sliding."

(Wallace quote via Atrios).